Trump Attacks Iran: Fordow Site Not Damaged

Trump has done the unthinkable, launching an illegal Nazi like war of aggression against Iran, although those are the only type of wars the fascist US and Israeli governments start anymore. He attacked three sites of the Iranian peaceful nuclear program - Isfahan, Fordow, and Natanz. Fordow had the most enriched uranium. Trump dropped six GBU’s on Fordow and fired some 30 cruise missiles at Natanz and Isfahan from submarines.

Now, onto the bullshit and lies:

Trump says all attacks were successful, and all sites were completely destroyed. Fordow appears to be unharmed. Iran filled in the entrances with dirt earlier and removed everything sensitive such as centrifuges and enriched uranium. Iran says nothing much happened at the Isfahan site.

Fordow was completely destroyed. This appears to be incorrect. My analysis of why this is false:

If Fordow had been destroyed, we would have seen volcanic craters, electromagnetic disruption, emergency flights of aircraft at airports, seismographs lighting up, and infrared flares under the mountain. Currently, there is no SAR confirmation, crater clustering, multispectral flash analysis, sign of underground fires, or BDA rings. If Fordow is still spinning tomorrow, Washington will have carried out the most expensive bunker-busting operation in history only to watch Iran emerge unscathed. Not only did the attack fail, but they also escalated the situation without strategic success.

Fordow is under 300 feet of reinforced concrete. Sure, but the most important parts of the facility are under a mountain beneath 2,500 feet of solid rock. I don’t know about the reinforced concrete. There are tunnels going down to the site. You go down and then the tunnel makes a sharp right turn for a while, goes down again and then makes a sharp left turn, on and on, it goes down, right, down, left, down, at all these odd jagged angles all the way to the bottom.

Even if you can get at the tunnel entrance, which is uncertain, you will still blow up only until the first right turn. Theodore Postol has a video about how hard it is to drop these GBU bombs down even a straight shaft because of the way the shafts are designed to thwart these bombs.

GBU’s can penetrate down to the Fordow site under 2,500 feet of solid rock (ignorant). Nope. GBU’s can’t penetrate one inch of solid rock. The only thing that can is a nuclear weapon. The GBU-57 only penetrates down to 200 feet of ground. Even if you dropped six of them, you would only get halfway to Fordow depth, and Fordow is under solid rock, so there would be zero penetration. To penetrate the solid rock at Fordow, you need a nuclear weapon.

The US has plenty of GBU’s. In fact we only have 20, and we just used six of them in a failed attack on Fordow.

Iran decided not to shoot down the planes on purpose (ignorant statement). They were B-2 bombers and they are extremely hard to shoot down. They are stealth and you can’t see them on the radar in general.

Iran’s shootdowns of four F-35’s were psywar lies (ignorant). Iran doesn’t do psywar lies like that. That’s an Israeli specialty. Footage of a burning F-35 on the ground at night was released. It looks authentic. Iran just released footage of a shootdown of one of the F-35’s. It also looks authentic. Iran also captured three of the pilots, and one is missing. So there is good evidence for at least one and possibly two shootdowns. Israel is lying and says none of its jets were shot down.

Israel owns the skies over Iran. Israeli jets fly over Iran unimpeded. In fact, Israeli jets rarely fly over Iran and when they do, they usually get shot down. Iran lured three of the jets to their doom by sending a surrender signal, causing the jets to fly over Iran. All three were then shot down. The other was shot down in the northwest of the country.

Israeli jets are almost always firing from over Iraq, presently at the border of Iraq and the ocean. Unfortunately, this is probably too far away for Iran’s AA missiles to hit. Israel’s planes are firing missiles from this standoff position, and they are also firing lots of drones from Israel. I’m not sure how well Iran’s AA can shoot down those missiles, and it appears that some of them are definitely getting through.

Iran’s AA was all destroyed and hence this is why Israel owns the skies. Israel has lightened up on this lately, saying that the AA is getting restored. However AA is very active over many Iranian cities, and there’s still an enormous quantity of AA guns. They’re not shooting ballistic interceptors because they’re not getting hit with ballistic missiles. They are shooting down a lot of the drones Israel is using, and they’ve also shot down some spy planes. I don’t know how many missiles they shoot down.

Israel has destroyed 2/3 of Iran’s missile launchers. They only have 200 of them. I seriously doubt if they have destroyed 2/3 of the launchers. A number of launchers have been damaged, but they can be quickly repaired and put back in service. Israel has probably only destroyed 15 missile launchers. I doubt if there are only 200 launchers, but I have no idea. There are decoy missile launchers scattered all over Iran, and Israel has been hitting lots of those. A lot of the launchers are hidden in bases under mountains.

Others are in silos like Hezbollah. Israel was never able to damage Hezbollah’s silos. The silos are carved deep in rock mountains deep under solid rock. Hezbollah’s underground bases are under 300 feet of solid rock. The missile launcher travels up the silo, and a rock door opens at the top. The missile fires, the rock door closes, and it goes back down its hole.

Ansar Allah has this sort of thing all over its mountains, and most of its arsenal is deep under mountains under solid rock also. A similar B2 raid on Yemen’s underground missiles by Biden resulted in failure. Similarly, in Yemen, a hole opens up, the launcher pops out, it fires, it slinks back down its hole, and the opening closes.

North Korea also has this in a mountain range bordering South Korea. They have artillery placements all over this range. Openings appear in the mountains, the gun pops out, it shoots, it goes back in its hole, and the opening closes up. Once again these are behind solid rock. North Korea may have thousands of these.

Russia promised Iran S-300 and S-400 AA batteries but then it failed to deliver them due to US pressure (ignorant). Actually Russia gave Iran both batteries. Video exists of Iran’s S-400 battery. Iran also has its own battery - the Bevar-373.

The Bevar-373 is as good as an S-300, but it’s not as good as an S-400 (ignorant). This is probably not true. I have seen analyses that it is as good as an S-400.

No one is helping Iran. It is on its own. Stories about Russia, China, and Pakistan helping Iran and just cope and give people false hope (ignorant). I’m on an Iranian board and talk like this is banned as giving false hope. Actually, I have heard that all three are definitely helping Iran. China landed three cargo planes in Iran recently. All had their transponders turned off, which suggests they carried military hardware. Russia got Iran’s AA system back up and running after eight hours when Israel took it out at the beginning of the war. I’m not sure of Pakistan’s help but there were rumors of truck convoys at the Iran-Pakistan border.

Israel has not suffered serious damage from Iran’s attacks. In fact, fully 1/3 of the buildings in Tel Aviv are destroyed or damaged, and that number is climbing. Israel stock exchange was destroyed as were several buildings at its Weizmann Research Institute in the Kirav, which is many buildings serving as Israel’s Pentagon. There are rumors of deaths of researchers at Weizmann.

Rafael Industries in Haifa was hit. A military intelligence group in Tel Aviv that works with Elbit Systems was destroyed. A building on the 8200 signals intelligence campus in Gillot was destroyed. There is a rumor that the Defense Ministry in Kiryat was damaged, and bodies were carried out on stretchers. A military research building next to the Sokorot Hospital in Beersheba was destroyed. The headquarters of Internal Security was destroyed in Haifa.

Iranian attacks today: Today, a biological and chemical weapons research facility in Ness Zionoa, 12 miles south of Tel Aviv, was destroyed with a Khorramshahr-4 ballistic missile. It is called the Institute for Biological Research. This is one of the most sensitive facilities of the Israeli Ministry of Defense.

It is a highly classified military facility involved in biological and chemical weapons, as well as military research. The institute is linked to biological warfare and even plots involving assassinations using toxic substances in Iran & elsewhere. There are 86 wounded and 20 trapped under the rubble. The destruction was massive and resembles Gaza or Beirut. Other targets were hit in Tel Aviv.

An Israeli flipped over his car when he saw the missiles. Ben Gurion airport was attacked. The Soreq nuclear center was attacked. No idea what that is. An Israeli interceptor failed and hit Israel instead in Haifa.